josie: What is PROMIS, and what does it have to do with the dead microbiologists?

MIKE RUPPERT: PROMIS has to do with more than just microbiologists. It was originally a program called Prosecutors' Management Information System. It was developed in the late '70's by Bill Hamilton at Inslaw, who I know. I've been to his offices. I've interviewed him many times. It was originally designed to be a software program that would take data from programs in any number of programming languages -- in those days it was COBOL and I don't know what else -- US Attorneys offices had 17 different systems, in like eight or nine different languages. PROMIS was originally designed to be a software that could be installed in all of those operations that would integrate the information from all these diverse languages and make it readable into one database. It was subsequently mated with artificial intelligence to begin to perform simple reasoning tasks. It was stolen in the early '80's by Ed Meese, Earl Brian, the Reagan administration, and, in intelligence agencies, several different strains, if you will, of PROMIS developed. One was developed by the Israeli's, one by CIA, etc. But, they were incorporated with a backdoor that allowed intelligence agencies to go into somebody's database, while they weren't aware of it, and extract data, manipulate data, to find out what everybody was doing.

PROMIS became very useful in that it could integrate, let's say in terrorist cases, if you had a bunch of terrorist suspects you could incorporate their telephone usage, their water usage, their power usage, their grocery shopping bills off their credit cards, and you would know, for example, that if the power at Terrorist Z's house was off for three days, and the power at Terrorist Y's house had doubled, that he doubled his grocery purchases, that maybe Terrorist Z had gone to visit Terrorist Y... and you wouldn't even need to conduct a surveillance. That's how powerful the software is. It's been applied and enhanced many times. It's been stolen and modified. I was visited by members of the RCMP national security staff in August of 2000, who were in the US. I was just one of people they came to visit, and I still have their cards. I pulled their cards out recently on a one-hour special in Canada, where I was debating the former Canadian Solicitor General, Ron Atkey on September the 11th. And I reached down and pulled out these two cards which say Canadian RCMP National Security Staff... there they are right there. And they admitted to me that Canada's RCMP version of PROMIS software, which they admit was used, among other things, to track stock trades in real time, but used for scientific research, had probably been compromised. They were uncertain as to who had compromised the software, and that was the investigation. Whether it was CIA or CSIS [Canadian Security and intelligence Service -- there are two intelligence services in Canada. CSIS and the RCMP National Security Section]... that's the other intelligence service in Canada.

And that software is everywhere. Israel has had a hand in it. We know, since September 11th, that Osama Bin Laden is reported to have the software. It was a great story that, actually, FOX News broke. I'm sure someone in the progressive movement will call me a right-wing because I quoted something from FOX News, but that's all right. It was a good story. I followed up and got admissions from the FBI who had denied for 18 years that they ever had the software. When I called them they said, "We stopped using it now." Which means that they had it. PROMIS is very powerful. It doesn't need to be applied necessarily to scientific ends. It's very widely used in the financial community worldwide. Picture PROMIS having the ability to integrate the data from a bank in Portland to a bank in Los Angeles to a bank in New York to Bank of America... wherever... so that you can use your ATM card to withdraw cash. PROMIS works the same way. Now, a bank has an incentive to buy the software because it will enable the bank to interface with all the other banks to get more transactions and more fees. So, when you sell it to the bank you don't tell them it has the back door in it. But then you get to read all the banking transactions. That's how the US intelligence community, the Department of Justice, FBI and CIA, tracks money movement all over the world. That's how they penetrate the financial terrorist network. PROMIS is extremely powerful.

josie: Has anyone claimed the $2.5 million made from the just-pre-911 put options on American and United?

MIKE RUPPERT: That was just one particular set of trades. To my knowledge, no. The US government has gone 100% stone-cold silent on all the insider trading around September the 11th. The last time I had somebody call the Securities and Exchange Commission -- these are the only people who can find out who made the trades; I can't -- trading records, brokers, stock trades: they're as protected as medical records -- so a journalist can't go find out who made a particular trade. It's against the law. The only people who are able to find out who purchased stock are the SEC, Department of Justice, US Treasury and Congress. And nobody's saying a word. The SEC has said "We will neither confirm nor deny the existence of any investigation." And yet I know because these records, the fact of the trades, was released through the Israeli Institute for Counter-terrorism, in Herzliyya Israel. That's how I broke the story. I got the records from them. Not saying who made the trades but that they were made. That's proof that the intelligence agencies track the stock trades. But the government can't go there because I've directly linked the trades to the CIA already

Excerpt from: 9.11 investigation: indymedia interviews Mike Ruppert in Portland by drew & josie 8:16pm - http://www.gaianxaos.com/SpecialReports_files/RupertInterview.htm