original timeline July 08, 2005
TIMELINE and reactions to the London terror bombings:
* 8.49am (GMT): An incident on the train line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate is reported to British Transport Police.
* 9.15am: Media reports emergency services called to London's Liverpool Street station after an explosion.
* 9.24am: Police say the incident was possibly caused by a collision between two trains, a power cut or a power cable exploding. Police report "walking wounded".
* 9.33am: Passengers told that all underground train services are being suspended because of a power fault across the network.
* 9.33am: Reports of another incident at Edgware Road station.
* 9.40am: Police say power surge incidents have occurred on Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.
* 10.02am: Scotland Yard says it is dealing with a "major incident".
* 10.09am: Witness Christina Lawrence, who was on a train leaving King's Cross, tells BBC: "There was a loud bang in the tunnel and the train just stopped and all of a sudden it was filled with black, gassy smoke and we couldn't breathe."
* 10.14am: A witness says that a bus has been ripped apart in an explosion in central London.
* 10.21am: Scotland Yard reports "multiple explosions".
* 10.23am: Police confirm an explosion on a bus in Tavistock Place.
* 10.25am: The BBC's Andrew Marr, with Prime Minister Tony Blair in Scotland, says the PM is "still unsure" whether the explosions are a terrorist attack.
* 10.25am: Reports two buses damaged in explosions - one in Russell Square and another in Tavistock Place. Witness Belinda Seabrook said of the Russell Square blast: "I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang. I turned round and half the double-decker bus was in the air."
* 10.39am: All London hospitals put on major incident alert.
* 10.49am: Police say there are serious casualties, but no deaths are confirmed.
* 10.51am: A passenger on a train at Edgware Road says he saw several bodies in the wreckage. A police spokesman says two trains remained stuck in tunnels at Edgware Road.
* 10.53am: Home Secretary Charles Clarke makes a statement outside Downing Street about "dreadful incidents" causing "terrible injuries". He says Mr Blair has been informed and advises the public not to make unnecessary journeys
* 10.55am: A doctor says there are at least 90 casualties at Aldgate.
* 11.18am: London's Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair tells the BBC he knows of "about six explosions", one on a bus and the others at train stations.
* 11.26am: The president of the European Parliament, Josep Borrell, blames terrorism for a "co-ordinated series of attacks".
* 11.30am: Signs on major roads into London warn: "Avoid London. Area closed. Turn on radio."
* 12.05pm: Mr Blair says there has been "a series of terrorist attacks in London ... people have died and are seriously injured ... It is reasonably clear this is designed and timed to coincide with the opening of the G8 (summit)". He says he will return to London within hours, but that the summit will continue without him.
* 12.10pm: The BBC's monitoring services locate a website linked to al-Qa'eda with a 200-word statement saying it carried out the bombings.
* 12.15pm: The ambulance service says there are people still trapped at King's Cross station.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15861290^661,00.html
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revised timeline July 08, 2005
TIMELINE and reactions to the London terror bombings:
8:50 am (0750 GMT): The first bomb explodes in the third carriage of a train on the Circle Line, which stretches around the city, as it travels from Aldgate to Liverpool Street stations in the financial district. Seven people are killed.
SECONDS later a bomb explodes on the second carriage of a Circle Line train at Edgware Road Station, west London. The force of the blast rips through the tunnel and damages another train going in the opposite direction. Seven people are confirmed dead.
A THIRD bomb detonates on the first carriage of a train travelling between Russell Square and King's Cross stations, north London, on the Piccadilly Line, the deepest of the three attacks. Twenty-one people are confirmed dead but police and firemen are still trying to recover bodies from the wreckage.
9.15am: Media reports emergency services called to London's Liverpool Street station after an explosion.
9.24am: Police say the incident was possibly caused by a collision between two trains, a power cut or a power cable exploding. Police report "walking wounded".
9.33am: Passengers told that all underground train services are being suspended because of a power fault across the network.
9.33am: Reports of another incident at Edgware Road station.
9.40am: Police say power surge incidents have occurred on Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.
9.47am: A fourth bomb tears the roof off the number 30 Hackney to Marble Arch bus. The blast happens at the junction of Woburn Square and Tavistock Place. Thirteen people are killed.
10.02am: Scotland Yard says it is dealing with a "major incident".
10.09am: Witness Christina Lawrence, who was on a train leaving King's Cross, tells BBC: "There was a loud bang in the tunnel and the train just stopped and all of a sudden it was filled with black, gassy smoke and we couldn't breathe."
10.14am: A witness says that a bus has been ripped apart in an explosion in central London.
10.21am: Scotland Yard reports "multiple explosions".
10.23am: Police confirm an explosion on a bus in Tavistock Place.
10.25am: The BBC's Andrew Marr, with Prime Minister Tony Blair in Scotland, says the PM is "still unsure" whether the explosions are a terrorist attack.
10.25am: Reports two buses damaged in explosions - one in Russell Square and another in Tavistock Place. Witness Belinda Seabrook said of the Russell Square blast: "I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang. I turned round and half the double-decker bus was in the air."
10.39am: All London hospitals put on major incident alert.
10.49am: Police say there are serious casualties, but no deaths are confirmed.
10.51am: A passenger on a train at Edgware Road says he saw several bodies in the wreckage. A police spokesman says two trains remained stuck in tunnels at Edgware Road.
10.53am: Home Secretary Charles Clarke makes a statement outside Downing Street about "dreadful incidents" causing "terrible injuries". He says Mr Blair has been informed and advises the public not to make unnecessary journeys
10.55am: A doctor says there are at least 90 casualties at Aldgate.
11.18am: London's Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair tells the BBC he knows of "about six explosions", one on a bus and the others at train stations.
11.26am: The president of the European Parliament, Josep Borrell, blames terrorism for a "co-ordinated series of attacks".
11.30am: Signs on major roads into London warn: "Avoid London. Area closed. Turn on radio."
12.05pm: Mr Blair says there has been "a series of terrorist attacks in London ... people have died and are seriously injured ... It is reasonably clear this is designed and timed to coincide with the opening of the G8 (summit)". He says he will return to London within hours, but that the summit will continue without him.
12.10pm: The BBC's monitoring services locate a website linked to al-Qa'eda with a 200-word statement saying it carried out the bombings.
12.15pm: The ambulance service says there are people still trapped at King's Cross station.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15861290-28102,00.html
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Underground Train numbers
204, 216, 311
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
08:50 Three bombs in the London Underground explode
within fifty seconds of each other
* One bomb explodes on a Circle Line sub-surface
underground train number 204 eastbound between
Liverpool Street and Aldgate. The explosion took place
100 yards into the tunnel on the third carriage of the
train.
* A second bomb explodes on the second carriage of
a Circle Line sub-surface underground train number 216
westbound at Edgware Road. The explosion on the train
destroys a wall separating two tunnels causing the
wall to collapse onto a train on an adjoining
platform.
* A third bomb explodes on a Piccadilly Line
deep-level underground train number 311 southbound
between King's Cross St. Pancras and Russell Square.
The explosion took place on the first carriage of the
train by the first set of double doors, causing severe
damage to the surrounding tunnel as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
1. Why would suicide bombers need timers?
Are we to believe that all four of them died when they mistakenly set off their bombs?
2. Why would suicide bombers carry identification which would lead the authorities directly to their colleagues?
How did it survive in at least three of the bombs?
I am reminded of the convenient passport found at the World Trade Center.
3. If all four video cameras on the bus were not working, how do the police know what happened on the bus?
The witness who saw someone fiddling with a bag just begs the question of whether the fiddler was a bomber.
Why do video cameras on buses need to be switched on by the drivers?
4. Why did Jack Straw state so quickly that it was al Qaeda?
Is the theory that it is still al Qaeda, or some other group?
5. How did the British know to warn Netanyahu so quickly?
If they knew enough to warn Netanyahu, why didn't they have enough time to shut down the subway system? Or did they?
6.Why was the transportation system still operating when the bus bomb went off, nearly an hour later than the subway bombs?
One theory is that the last bomber got on the bus after the subway system was closed!
7. How easy would it be to pay some Muslim British men, who are told to carry identification, to drive to London and sit in specific places on specific subway trains or buses?
When the bombs go off and the identification is found, you have instant patsies, and British Muslims in the frame.
The fact they were seen together on video footage then becomes just part of the set-up.
With so many known video cameras in London, why wouldn't they take care not to be seen together?
They could have entered London separately if they did not want to be identified as part of a 'cell', and avoid giving the police information that could be used to trace their colleagues.
As is often the case with these stories, we are asked to believe that they would be technically proficient ('military grade' explosives), but make the dumbest small mistakes.
8. What happened to the story, out of Canada and New Zealand, that the police shot one or two men near Canary Wharf?
The bombers are all dead, and dead men tell no tales.
They were kind enough to leave enough identification, and enough video footage, to tie them to British Muslim colleagues.
Once the 'cell' is broken everybody can rest easy, with no more inconvenient questions about the sanity of the 'war on terror' or the fact that Blair's lies led to the attack.
Nothing to see here; please move along (oh, and may I see your ID card please?).
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/
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Drill Functions
What these drills represent will vary depending on the drill and which researcher you ask. Listed below are key functions.
*Dual track drillers: Attacks carried out by a compartment of the participating agencies. e.g. Vigilant Warrior
*Security stand-down: Drills that disable any security measures in place. e.g. Vigilant Guardian, Northern Denial
*Diversion: To draw attention away from the actual attack location.
*Convenience: These drills strategically place participants for clean up, rescue or administrative tasks e.g. TriPOD II, Timely Alert/concrete barriers in place etc.
*Noise: Flooding the ether with "terror" chatter so NSA, NRO, or which ever agency monitors communications these days, becomes helpless.
*Window Dressing: Erroneous drills providing plausible deniability by creating the perception that drills are common place, harmless, and a good excuse for the locals to cover themselves in fake blood and guts.
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Key points of London bomb investigation
16 Jul 2005 14:05:22 GMT
Source: Reuters
LONDON, July 16 (Reuters) - Following are key facts about the investigation into suspected al Qaeda-linked bombings that killed 55 people in London on July 7.
THE ATTACKS - Three bombs exploded within 50 seconds of each other at 8:50 a.m. on underground trains heading south, east and west from King's Cross station. A fourth went off at 9:47 a.m. on a bus nearby.
CASUALTIES - Fifty-five people, including the four bombers, were killed in the blasts. Some 700 were wounded.
THE BOMBS - Police have only said officially that the bombs were carried in rucksacks and contained less than 10 lb (4.5 kg) each of high explosives. Police sources say quantities of highly unstable home-made explosives were discovered in raids in Luton, near London, and in Leeds in northern England.
THE BOMBERS - Three were British Muslims of Pakistani origin from Leeds: Shehzad Tanweer, 22, blew up a train at Aldgate underground station; Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, did the same at Edgware Road; Hasib Hussain, 18, carried the bomb that blew up a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square. The fourth, who died at Russell Square, was a Jamaican-born convert to Islam who had been living in Aylesbury, northwest of London. His name has not been officially confirmed.
THE BACKERS - Police say they are looking for the support network that planned the bombings and provided the group with technical expertise and finance, and they expect to find a clear link to al Qaeda.
THE HUNT - Police have taken hundreds of witness statements and are studying footage from more than 5,000 security cameras. Police have issued a special appeal for information on the movements of the fourth bomber, Hussain, in the 81 minutes between 8:26 a.m., when cameras showed him with the others at King's Cross, and 9:47 a.m., when he died in the bus blast.
INTERNATIONAL LINKS - Pakistan has arrested six men on suspicion of links with one of the bombers, Tanweer, who had visited the country and attended an Islamic school. Egypt is questioning a British-trained biochemist, Magdy Elnashar, who studied at Leeds and whose house there is being searched.
THE INTELLIGENCE - Intelligence chiefs had reduced the al Qaeda threat level from "severe - general" to "substantial" in June, following Britain's general election. The government has said it does not believe intelligence clues were missed, saying the attacks "came out of the blue". Police chief Ian Blair has confirmed media reports that a man on an intelligence watch-list arrived in Britain by ferry in June and flew out shortly before the blasts but said there was nothing to link him to the bombs
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Richard Jones
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/berkshire/4663853.stm
Friday, 8 July, 2005, 10:14 GMT 11:14 UK
"...Richard Jones, from Binfield, near Bracknell, Berks,
had got off a bus just before it was blown up in
Tavistock Square on Thursday.
Mr Jones, 61, an IT consultant, has told BBC News he
saw a man acting suspiciously on the bus.
He said the man was fiddling with something in his bag
and seemed in an agitated state..."
Mr Jones, who was forced to take the bus from
Euston after Tube services were suspended,
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2 - 9.33am: Passengers told that all underground train
services are being suspended because of a power fault
across the network.
bullshit!!!!!!!
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3 -'I heard the bus bomb go off and shuddered - I knew
something terrible had happened'
'The building shook and we heard a muffled thump at 8.50am'
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is he talking about the bus or the tube????
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So, how could Mr Jones be forced to take a bus, before tube services were suspended.
The tube services were suspended at 9.33am
The bus blew up at 8.50am -
wrong:
9.47am: A fourth bomb tears the roof off the number 30 Hackney to Marble Arch bus.
The blast happens at the junction of Woburn Square and Tavistock Place. Thirteen people are killed.
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"Harry's Place" noted, for example, that on Thursday evening a BBC News webpage headlined "Bus man may have seen terrorist," began "A bus passenger says he may have seen one of those responsible for the terrorist bomb attacks in London. Richard Jones, from Binfield, had got a bus just before it was blown up..."
But on Friday at 10.14 am GMT, that webpage was suddenly changed. The headline now reads "Passenger believes he saw bomber", and the text begins "A bus passenger says he may have seen one of those responsible for the bomb attacks in London. Richard Jones, from Binfield, had got a bus just before it was blown up..."
Early on Friday morning another BBC webpage, headlined "Testing the underground mood," spoke of "the worst terrorist atrocity Britain has seen." But at 12.08 GMT, while the rest of the article was left untouched, those words were replaced by "the worst peacetime bomb attacks Britain has seen."
There are other examples of similar censorship occurring at the BBC. Stalin himself could hardly have done a better job of overseeing its award-winning website.
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Prepare for Tube terror drill
11 August 2003
http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/6166798?source=PA
A major exercise simulating a terrorist strike on London Underground is to take place next month, the Government announced today.
The long-awaited drill was expected to test the emergency services on their reaction to a hypothetical chemical or biological attack on the Tube, with mass evacuations and decontaminations.
It will be staged at Bank station in the City of London on Sunday, September 7.
The area around the station is expected to be turned into a "ghost town" for the exercise which was first announced by Home Secretary David Blunkett in March but was postponed due to the Iraq war.
"An exercise will be held at Bank Underground station on Sunday, September 7 to allow London's emergency and health services to practise their response to a terrorist attack on the Tube," said a Department of Transport spokeswoman.
"This is one of a number of regular exercises designed to test emergency procedures and equipment carried out in London and across the country.
"It is not a response to a specific threat. It will allow organisations to test systems thoroughly, to train frontline responders and to identify possible vulnerabilities.
"Some media access will be given to show the public that plans are in hand and are being thoroughly tested."
Several hundred police, fire and ambulance personnel will be involved in the exercise.
Neither the military nor civilians were due to be involved, despite earlier reports that members of the public would be asked to play the role of casualties.
The spokeswoman stressed that the evacuation would involve only the Tube station and not surrounding buildings.
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Germaines multicultaral family - doesn' fit
http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/world/2005/july/114095.htm
Killer No 4
The mystery fourth London suicide bomber was also unmasked yesterday. He was a fanatical Jamaican Muslim.
Convert Germaine Lindsay blew himself to bits at King's Cross, killing at least 25 Tube travellers.
Police yesterday confirmed his identity through DNA records - and released CCTV stills of the 18-year-old accomplice who blew up the No 30 bus.
Lindsay, in his 30s, is thought to have rented out the Leeds house the gang used as a bomb factory.
Three weeks earlier, he was living with his white English partner Samantha Lewthwaite and their one-year-old son Abdulla in a terraced house in Aylesbury, Bucks - raided by cops on Wednesday night.
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The 'quiet, likeable' man who was the King's Cross bomber
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article299288.ece
By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter
Published: 15 July 2005
His friends knew him as Jermal, a likeable, quiet man who worked as a carpet-fitter, had an English wife and a baby. He lived in a small terraced house in Aylesbury. He was also, it is now believed, the fourth London suicide bomber who blew himself up on the Piccadilly line near King's Cross, killing at least 24 people.
Yesterday, police were piecing together the background of Lindsay Jermalne and examinning two packages that arrived for him with Leeds postmarks, handed over by the Post Office.
Fellow Muslims who knew him were as baffled as the rest of this market town by how they came to have a suicide bomber living in their midst. One young man who, like all his acquaintances, asked not to be named, said: "He was a nice quiet guy, a proper Muslim who didn't drink or smoke. I used to meet him at a friend's house with a group of others and we would all weight-train together. He was quite a fit guy and a wrestling fanatic and used to watch it on the television all the time. I'm really surprised they are saying this about him. I won't believe it until I see his picture on the television." Yesterday, police who raided his rented house on Wednesday night were continuing a forensic search of the property. Both ends of the road remain cordoned off and blue sheeting conceals the front of the house. Samples of DNA will be matched with tissue samples from the blast to confirm his identity.
And like his fellow bombers from Leeds and Dewsbury, the fourth member of the gang is not well-known in the area, anddescribed byneighbours as having a shaven head, scruffy beard and stocky build. Details of his background remain sketchy.
He is said to have arrived from Huddersfield three years ago and married a local woman called Samantha Lewthwaite who had converted to Islam about a year before. She is believed to be about 21 and educated at Elmhurst Middle School and The Grange secondary school. One man who knew them said: " Samantha was very friendly with Muslim girls and, because of that friendship, wanted to convert to Islam. I think she met him through them, so you could say it was an arranged marriage." The couple are said to have been married at a friend's house.
Although both are said to be very religious, people at the town mosque said Jermal would exchange his western clothes for Islamic dress when he went to pray. He is also believed to have visited the Regent's Park Mosque in London. His wife is believed to have taken the name Sharima.
Before moving to Northern Road, the couple lived in a modern house in an estate called The Coppice on the outskirts of town where they were known to neighbours as "a pleasant couple." They used a local supermarket, where a shop assistant said: "He was such a nice guy, polite, kind and very quiet. It's just incredible he would do something like this."
There was no reply at the terraced house last night where Jermal's mother-in-law is believed to live; her parents are said to have separated years ago. A man who answered the door at her brother's house in a nearby road did not wish to comment.
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do extreme Islam steerers
target ex- aclcholics/drug addicts?
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conversion mechanism
remember those good things about islam
sobreity and contemplation & privacy
these are not good for western business
because there is nothing
better
than someone addicted to
corporate run 'leisure playtime '
[drinking/gambling/drug culture]
who doesn't think contemplate
isn't political / critical
and isn't bothered about their privacy
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strange internet co-incidence?
Quote from story byTom Heneghan and Stew Webb
"Intelligence sources have revealed Michael Shipton, MI-5 British Agent,
is tied to the London Terrorist attack,
Grab Him.
The Signal man walked with a clipboard in his hand down the street,
there are enough cameras to identify this terrorist."
Michael Shipton also worked on a BBC program called spooks
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Jul 12 2005, 08:12 PM
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Londoners Suspicious Of Station Closures Before Blasts
Several different people on the forum of the London Evening Standard
website are reporting their own perculiar experiences on the day of the
bombing.
One member writes,
Hi everyone,
Did anyone travelling in BEFORE the attacks began yesterday notice anything
peculiar on their tube journey?
I catch the Piccadilly line at 7.15am each morning from Southgate to reach
my work in Kensington by 8.00. Normally, all seats are taken by Finsbury
Park and carriages are packed by Kings Cross.
However, yesterday my tube journey was eerily quiet. For the first time
ever there were spare seats in my carriage all the way through zone 1. It
was noticeable enough for me to wonder what on earth was going on. This was
at 7.45 - over an hour before attacks began.
I've also heard people saying that the Northern Line was being shut down at
the same time.
Is there something that we're not being told?
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billmoowar
on 08/07/05 at 02:11 PM
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What i can't understand is why nothing has been reported about the events
at 7am yesterday morning on the Northen line from Stockwell to Morden
I was due to pick up a work collegue from there, but turned up to see the
station closed and an entourage of tube emergency vans, police and the like.
As i followed the line down, all the otherstations were shut.
Had there been a tip off? did they know something was going to happen
before it did? I think so. There were hundreds of people being turned away
from those stations before any of the bombs went off. I think there is a
massive cover up by the government and they new there was somethng going to
happen.
Was anyone there at any of those stations being turned away at 7am-8am?
BoredTrainBuilder
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Jul 12 2005, 10:35 PM
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Member No.: 2,091
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Sorry to shatter all the wishful thinking of the conspiracy theorists, the
Northern Line was shut because an axle-box collapsed on a train at around
0600.
When this happens, and it has happened before, it is very difficult to
remove the failed train from the tunnel hence widespread delays.
And I didn't read this on the web.
Nah
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Posted by:
martin05
on 08/07/05 at 03:43 PM
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I don't buy that about the Northern Line. If there were tube emergency vans
it would be them trying to fix a train that had broken down - although
don't they shunt them?
Any police dog vans? If there were then I'd believe they were hunting for
explosives
Posted by:
liotru
on 12/07/05 at 09:50 AM
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Posted by:
billmoowar
on 08/07/05 at 04:07 PM
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No dog units but there were two unmarked police cars with blue lights stuck
to the top, speeding that way, just seems very strange to have 9 stations
shut at peak times, then announce that there was an electrical surge, then
over an hour later we hear off the first bomb.
the government has already admittd that they had to cover certain
information up..."broken down train"??
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Piccadilly
Line closed 8AM (0 Replies) Posted by:
sleepy_dave
on 09/07/05 at 02:26 AM
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Got to Arnos Grove, 8.30 AM Thursday. Unable to enter station, sign reads
"due to fire, Piccadilly Line suspended between Arnos Grove and Kings
Cross". NB this is well before first bomb at Liverpool St/Aldgate at
8.51AM. FOAF saw fire engine outside Caledonian Road station at 8.25AM. Was
this a suspected fire, totally separate from the bombings later on? Or was
there some vague intelligence re. an attack on the Tube that morning? Note
that other lines (Eg. Northern Line) were also experiencing problems, but
is that par for the course on any given day on London's Tube network? Or am
I just being overly suspicious about how events were reported, given the
'power surge' headlines? Discuss.
BTW Big up all the emergency rescue workers, medics, police, etc. True
professionals - thank you.
A woman I know was informed by her sister, who is a police officer, not to
use public transport last thursday, at 7 AM.
Does anyone else know any police officers, or have you heard of warnings
like this?
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warning
was ingnored because of thr G8 (0 Replies)
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wegweg
on 12/07/05 at 02:53 PM
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http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/premium.php
'Contrary to original claims that Israel was warned "minutes before" the
first attack, unconfirmed rumors in intelligence circles indicate that the
Israeli government actually warned London of the attacks "a couple of days"
previous. Israel has apparently given other warnings about possible attacks
that turned out to be aborted operations. The British government did not
want to disrupt the G-8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, or call off visits
by foreign dignitaries to London, hoping this would be another false alarm.
The British government sat on this information for days and failed to
respond. Though the Israeli government is playing along publicly, it may
not stay quiet for long. This is sure to apply pressure on Blair very soon
for his failure to deter this major terrorist attack.'
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check this witness statement, doesnt ring true at all....he states that the
passengers were standing face to face....the so called bomber was fiddling
with his bag......he doesnt say if they were upstairs or downstairs......on
the top deck of buses passengers are not allowed to stand, only downstairs
is that allowed. If the driver sees people upstairs standing in his
periscope he will stop the bus and order them off....if this happened
downstairs they were away from the source of the blast !!..........this
witness is a definite fake in my opinion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/4663853.stm
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below are useful posts from the urban75 board which is run outta brixton.....
07-07-2005, 09:34 AM
Belushi
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Fuck, I hope something bad aint happening.
The Northern Line was shut when I went to Balham station at 7.45 this morning.
07-07-2005, 09:50 AM
g force
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jung offender
Big bang over West End just then? Thunder I hope
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I work by Oxford Circus and heard nothing...strange that the Victoria line
was workign fine at 8.45 - but the escalators were out at Oxford Circus due
to "power problems".
07-07-2005, 10:02 AM
Stobart Stopper
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This is our 9/11.
My husband is here as he's off with a bad back. As soon as the news came
through he said "bombs", 20 years of policing he's done, don't believe this
shit about power surges. If you are in central London now get the fuck out,
walk.
07-07-2005, 10:10 AM
editor
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Posts: 23,103
Great Western have stopped their services beween Reading and Paddington.
Very odd.
07-07-2005, 10:11 AM
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Nexus North East suspend Metro services in Newcastle and Sunderland City Centre
Wtf the fuck is going on?
07-07-2005, 11:13 AM
jæd
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Getting A Life...
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Swindon station has been closed due to a security incident... (Source: BBC
World News)
07-07-2005, 11:16 AM
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Swindon & Brighton stations evacuated now according to the Beeb.
07-07-2005, 11:25 AM
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A 'device' at Stockwell...apparently the police have informed my son's
school nearby to keep everyone inside.
07-07-2005, 11:30 AM
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Intresting Edware Rd was selected, opposite Paddington Green nick, where
terrorist suspects are interogated. Also Liverpool st, which serves Londons
financial district.
Up until the bus explosions, it was still being claimed it was a 'power
surge', a cover story obviously invented not to cause panic. Radio 2 were
still claiming this at 11am.
Controlled exposions gives the impression it wasnt suicide bombers.
07-07-2005, 11:37 AM
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BBC World Service have just said that Brighton station has been closed due
to a suspicious package
07-07-2005, 12:16 PM
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the 'security services' have temporarily taken over all vodafone's offices
and operations, due to the inherent security risk posed by large and
sophisticated cellular networks (inside news, as it were)
12:55 PM
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Just a quicky, the shooting in Canary Wharf is still yet to be confirmed.
However security officals have warned them at Reuters to take precautions
and to hold on that until they confirm it to avoid any chance of panic
07-07-2005, 02:32 PM
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Sky report that the telephone unit has been taken away by the police from
the phonebox by the bombed bus
07-07-2005, 03:48 PM
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As for the shooting thing ... obv. the guy can't say too much, but my mate
at reuters def. made it sound like they weren't being ALLOWED to release
the story, rather than it might not be true ....
Just been denied by the police (BBC)
07-07-2005, 03:53 PM
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Police down here near Docklands seizing records from a major data centre.
07-07-2005, 07:44 PM
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Just heard from a friend that bank station was cleared this morning at 7 am
due to a security alert.
08-07-2005, 09:53 AM
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The shooting at Canary Wharf
I saw Lisatocket had reported this at somepoint yesterday, I got a phone
call myself at about lunchtime yesterday saying that a friend had heard a
man had been shot at Canary Wharf, obviously its still very sketchy to
whether his happened, but I thought it might be worth mentioning that it's
been reported in the South London Press.
* POLICE were yesterday probing reports a man had been "neutralised"
outside Canary Wharf.
Is is believed the man was shot dead by police marksmen outside the Credit
Suisse First Boston bank.
from South London
Press
http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200southlondonheadlines/tm_objectid=15716646%26method=full%26siteid=50100-name_page.html
08-07-2005, 02:54 PM
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I saw on the BBC that a suicide bomber had been shot by police in Docklands
yesterday morning but reasonably quickly this was denied and I have not
seen any more mention of this since.
Came into the office and spoke to a business associate who is based in
Canary Wharf and she (+ 5 collegues) saw the police snipers shoot a man in
the street. Now she is not somebody that is full of shit, I have know her
for some time now and trust her 100%.
10-07-2005, 03:50 AM
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from carriage one, Kings X, to those looking for missing
After detailed anti-terrorism staff interview I found out some stuff I
needed to share.
The King X bomb was placed at the END of the first carriage, not the first
set of doors on the front carriage as reprted on the news.
The tube tunnel was very narrow here, and the train was very crowded, which
was why most of the people were killed and hurt at the back of carriage 1/
beginning of carriage 2.
I heard this from the counter-terrorism police who took my statement today:
the BBC and ITN were wrong in their first reports.
From being there about 7-10 yards from blast, I can say that there were
about 30- 50 behind me therefore who may not have got out alive. About 10
behind me walked to safety.
I understand that there are about two thirds of this number missing. I can
also say that when I was at University College Hospital there was one woman
at least that I saw with total amnesia who had no idea of her name,
address, anything, so please therefore do not give up hope, if you are
searching, yet. There is a small hope.
I can also say that the blast was very intense, so if you were rightnext to
it, it would have been almost instantaneous, because the tube tunnel was so
small, and the train so rammed, those next to it would have taken the full
force of the blast.
I do not know what else to say, I am sorry.
11-07-2005, 04:03 PM
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm...jectID=10334992
the canary wharf story is getting mentioned in foreign press.
11-07-2005, 08:49 PM
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I visited my workmates who were on the bus.
The one who broke her cheekbones was looking understandably busted up and
was a bit doped as she'd had a lot of surgery. I was glad to see it was
mostly just swelling around her face - she's a beautiful girl and I was
worried there would be permanent damage to it, but she'll look fine once it
all heals. She's getting away without needing metal plates anywhere, which
is good news.
The other girl was much more awake and lively - they've removed lots of
glass and shrapnel from her legs, but they're tightly wrapped up. They're
basically having to leave the wounds open but clean in order to perform
grafts and have them look as unscarred as possible. She said she wasn't too
uncomfortable but I suspect it will be some time before she can bend and
move her legs normally. But she's a really positive person and is very
close to her family (as is the other girl - her husband, sister and mum
were there) so she has a lot of resources to help her through this.
The worse thing is that she told me why they were on that bus - they were
told to get off the tube and then, not being sure where to go, decided to
take the 30 as it said 'Kings Cross' and they thought they'd get something
useful from there.
They were at Euston.
If only one of them had known that it was just a 500m walk away they
needn't have got on a bus at all.
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But I guess a lot of people who don't go overground much don't know things
like that.
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[21:57:40] … At University College Hospital, armed police officers were deployed apparently to search for a suspect from the Warran Street attack. When I tried to go to Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel I found that people were being stopped and searched entering the premises. I was prevented from entering since I had a camera and their orders were keep out journalists.
[21:57:49] … http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/07/319035.html
[21:58:04] … what is that????????????????
[21:58:12] bongolia page not found
[21:59:56] … there is TONS of hidden stuff at indy
[22:00:05] … what happened to that page?
[22:03:19] captain wardrobe what a load of bollocks on IMCUK...
[22:03:42] bongolia yep
[22:04:10] captain wardrobe dont matter what you post no one can read inthe UK anyway
[22:04:21] bongolia hehe
[22:04:21] captain wardrobe without being told what to think
[22:04:50] bongolia i have always noticed that...people dont know what to think
[22:05:57] captain wardrobe its the age of aquarius....all soulful feelings have been turned into data
[22:11:49] bongolia somebody has just dropped by here that was just behind the bus that was hit today
[22:11:55] … he heard and saw it
[22:12:09] captain wardrobe wow love to know what occured
[22:12:32] bongolia sounded like a carbackfiring....slight smoke from middle of the bus upstairs
[22:12:39] … two windows went out
[22:12:42] … one each side
[22:12:49] captain wardrobe hmmmmm
[22:12:49] bongolia no smell in the air
[22:12:57] … people got off
[22:13:08] … police were there in 5 minutes and cleared the area
[22:13:16] … anything you want me to ask him?
[22:13:40] … bus was travelling south from hackney into town
[22:14:05] captain wardrobe er...just what were police asking him...how thay acted did they know/have a protocol...
[22:14:43] bongolia didnt ask anything
[22:15:00] … moved everybody in a pretty heavy way
[22:15:09] captain wardrobe really.....hmmmmmm
[22:15:20] bongolia he says
[22:15:24] captain wardrobe they are getting ready for martial law b
[22:15:31] bongolia the police didnt really know what to do
[22:15:39] … people were trying to get under the cordon
[22:15:41] captain wardrobe just following orders
[22:15:58] … levels of access
[22:16:00] bongolia police werent organised when they got there
[22:16:20] captain wardrobe sound like they were left out the loop then...
[22:16:22] bongolia yep
[22:16:33] … and 5 minutes to get there
[22:16:39] … so they obviously didnt know
[22:16:48] captain wardrobe yeah....
[22:16:54] bongolia last time i am sure units got there quicker
[22:17:11] … one van came first
[22:17:31] … then 5 minutes later 2 more vans and thats when they started blocking the road
[22:17:40] … then things moved much faster
[22:19:03] … by the time my friend had walked round the block to the other end of the road it was all sealed off
[22:19:24] … fire engines two came in 10 minutes
[22:19:31] … 2 ambulances
[22:19:38] captain wardrobe 10 mins is a long time
[22:19:55] bongolia and the fire dept chief at the same time as the fire engines
[22:20:00] captain wardrobe its all quiker that the first lot on the 7th
[22:21:43] bongolia i am getting him to pinpoint on the map where it happened
[22:22:09] … on hackney road
[22:22:12] captain wardrobe early rports vary from hackney to shoreditch to bethnal green
[22:22:29] … i know that road well
[22:22:33] bongolia nearer to the shoreditch end than mare street
[22:22:48] captain wardrobe is it b4 the bridge? to Bethnall green?
[22:23:16] bongolia yes before
[22:25:08] … from urban boards the editor posted
[22:25:12] … The eye witness report on Robert Elms says the guy with the backpacker flew out of his seat when it went off and seemed utterly surprised.
She reported foam coming out of the bag and wires hanging out of the bag.
The caller said that her daughter went over to see if he was OK before the penny dropped and then people stampeded out of the carriage. She suggested that he might have been badly burnt.
[22:26:29] captain wardrobe stampeded?
[22:26:34] … blimey....
[22:26:39] bongolia moooooo
[22:27:03] captain wardrobe they've got them exactly where they want them
[22:27:11] bongolia yep
[22:29:00] … 21-07-2005, 02:52 PM
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One theory could be that this is some sort of MI5/police sting operation to identify suicide bombers. Maybe they had an undercover operative sell some fake bombs to someone who had contacts to unknown people who were prepared to become suicide bombers.
[22:29:25] captain wardrobe its a possibility...
[22:29:46] bongolia whisky is an ambulance controller she posted
[22:30:07] … at first for a suspect package we sent one officer and two ambulances - then we didnt have enough for every one, so we dropped it to one amb and an officer, then one officer. we have had tens of suspect packages day and night for the past few weeks.
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hi everyone
I can see everyone including me has been really busy on this but I'm finding it really hard to read everything that's been written so sorry if this is duplicated somewhere else on the site
from http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/london.bombing/victims.html
On the bus in Tavistock Square:
Philip Stuart Russell, 28, from Kennington, south London, appears to have only taken the bus after being evacuated from the London Underground on his way to work at JP Morgan, PA quoted his family as saying. His father, Grahame, said his son would normally have got off the subway at Moorgate, but in the unfamiliar surroundings of Euston he took the wrong bus. "I am just trying to mourn and grieve his loss. He's a wonderful kid that was in the wrong place at the wrong time," PA quoted Grahame Russell as saying.
Very hard to imagine how he could have ended up anywhere near Euston. Anyone who looks at the way the London Underground joins up can see how everything links, which in many ways works against the planners of this attack but helps us to investigate.
I think the Kennington clue is really important as it is on the Northern line which was closed early on the morning of the 7/7 and police cars seen around Balham station. The massive police operation around Stockwell Kennington Oval that has appeared as a man hunt is I think to shut people up, they don't want anyone talking. Especially after witnessing an execution. The events on the 21/7 are showing us this.
The Shepherds Bush train was opposite the BBC, the Warren Street train besides UCL hospital (where police swooped after 7/7 and many of the injured were taken) the Oval (the Northern line link) and the BUS at Hackney (telling us and them that the bus was diverted on its route from Hackney Wick and not from Marble Arch). Buses were used to ferry the injured to hospital from Kings Cross on 7/7. This is why there is such panic to get these guys (who have injured or killed precisely no-one).
The other coincidence is that all the lines where the 3 incidents happened on 7/7 were closed for about half an hour before 8.30 that day.
The mortuary was set up in the grounds of Armoury House in the City of London (which also has its own police force The City of London police) and the Royal London Hospital where many of the injured did not recover and was visited by the Queen is on Corporation of London ground.
I hope this helps
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Giuliani -London Resilience terror tie
This also got lost over the last few days.
Check the Greg Nixon "LGA Harrogate" thread.
He mentioned, that London Resilience and Rudolph Giuliani met each other.
Now according to BBC, last September's simulated terror drill was organised by London Resilience and similar exercises have been planned over the next two years.
They include a joint British/American exercise in 2005.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3320809.stm
Operation Sassoon
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,290742,00.jpg
The scene above is not from Thursday's bombings, but September 2003. And instead of alleged terrorists, British authorities were conducting the drama. More than 500 police, fireman, and rescue workers took part in operation "Sassoon", the biggest anti-terror operation in British history
(http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,364214,00.html )
June 12th emergency drill
(*thx to Matthew Everett)
Live emergency exercise at Tower Hill
http://tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-centre/press-releases/press-releases-content.asp?prID=384
10 June 2005
"...London Underground (LU) will hold its annual live emergency exercise at Tower Hill station on Sunday 12 June...
...Last year it took place at Lambeth North station on the Bakerloo line, this year it is the turn of the District line...
...A police cordon will be erected around Tower Hill station, which will result in the following roads being closed from 0500 on Sunday 12 June: Trinity Square, Savage Gardens, Wakefield Gardens and Coopers Row.
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National Whitewater Center
The british police, possibly under pressure or manipulation from higher-ups tries to connect both 7/7 and 7/21 attacks with Al-Quaeda and construct some direct links between both alleged suspect groups.
Currently it's the National Whitewater Center (http://www.ukrafting.co.uk/)
"…the Police were investigating whether some of the July 21 suspects may have visited the same Welsh whitewater-rafting center as two of the July 7 suicide bombers, Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shahzad Tanweer…."
The National Whitewater Center is closely associated with R.N.L.I (Royal National Lifeboat Institution) , which was recently visited by Queen Elizabeth, one day before the 7/21 attacks.
http://www.rnli.org.uk/Article.asp?strUserTypeID=&ArticleID=4198
http://www.ukrafting.co.uk/events.htm
There was already another Buckingham Palace link of the 7/7 attacks, when we found out, that the mother of one of the alleged suspects was awarded by Queen Elizabeth at a garden party.
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Africa- "connection"
During my 7/7 workshop in DC and associated talks, I pointed on a significant Africa-"connection", carefully scripted via both victims and suspects, which could point on a forthcoming Africa-terror wave with the help of infiltration of their governments via the bogus cover of aid regarding "hunger" and "AIDS".
I called this kind of psyOP "A-CHIP" (African-Caribbean 'Helping Idiots'- PsyOP), already also supported during G8!
07/21 had the same subtle manipulative mindset in their script.
Here is the current list:
BALI
Trent Morgan "played" possibly a passive role in the drills, as a "toy".
He not only survived a Bali 'terror attack', but also London and gave significant interviews right after the attack. Was his function pre-scripted as a helpful PR effect ("Jessica Lynch effect") ?
ERITREA
Another alleged suspect, Muktar Said Ibrahim, also known as Muktar Mohammed Said, arrived in Britain from Eritrea as a 14-year-old dependent in 1992
See also
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1122384960557B635
JAMAICA
a) One of the alleged suspects came from Jamaica. His pregnant wife Samantha Lewthwaite accusing the UK government of a lie, and believes her husband was not involved in the 7/7 attacks.
b) The London Bus satellite surveillance system was also "successfully" introduced in Jamaica in the beginning of July 2005, but apparently doesn't even work effectively enough in London (according to former London busdrivers).
The Jamaican military (JDF) is trained by the British Army Air Corps and Canadian Air Force personnel and cooperates with the Police.
The United States Navy also has provided training assistance for Coast Guard officers and other ranks and there are articles around a special elite of FEMA trained the Jamaican police as well.
Is Jamaica a logistical "test base" for globalist plots?
MORROCCO
Constantly linked to the Spanish 3/11 attacks, in one case even to the morroccan intelligence service itself. However, not necessarily linked to the London attacks, but mentioned in some articles because of association with the Madrid attacks.
NIGERIA
a) Lagos Consulate warned prior 7/7
b) One victim killed in front of Tavistock Building, was from Nigeria, working for AMEC
(was this victim "assassinated" because of pending prior knowledge as well??; see AMEC-Kingstar connection!)
SOMALIA
One of the alleged suspects of the London blasts is Yasin Hassan Omar from Somalia, 24, who arrived in Britain as a dependent in 1992.
NOTE: Mogadishu is worldwide famous for the 'terrorist' hijack of a passenger plane, which was grounded over there in 1977 and provoked new german anti-terror laws.
SOUTH AFRICA
One of the mothers of the alleged 7/7 suspects, Farida Partel (who was once awarded by Queen Elisabeth) is from South Africa. Her husband died in April 2004, in the same month when the significant COBRA tube drill in New York took place.
ZIMBABWE
Jamie Gordon, who "lost" her cell phone on the bus, and later officially got killed as well, worked for the embassy of Zimbabwe.
Was she 'hired' into a passive drill team and her "role" was to deceive the tabloid readership, that a cell phone might have been used as a timer/trigger for the explosives?
Annan pro bogus terror hunt
Forget the UN.
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has urged world leaders to agree on a universal definition of terrorism:
"…A new UN proposal calls terrorism any act intended to intimidate a population or to compel a government or an international body to act…"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4716957.stm
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Loyita Worly, victim of subway blast
"There was just a big bang, and all the lights went and the ash started falling in. The smell of burning and everything in the carriage. Some people panicked. Most people kept calm. We couldn't move anywhere because it was a rush hour and everybody was standing on the train. We heard people shouting for help."
Question: How did you feel?
"I'm quite a calm kind of person so i was ok. My main fear was - I didn't know what it was. I was wondering it was a fire. And I did think if it was a fire it was going to be it, really. But there was nothing we could do about it. We couldn't move we were just stuck. They called for medics. And they said some people on the other carriages were pretty badly hurt."
Q: Did you see anyone?
"Not at that point but we had to walk down the track pass the wreckage."
Q: What kind of wreckage?
"At that point I assumed it was a bomb because it looked like it was blown from the inside out."
Q: How bad was the damage?
"It was extensive. There was wreckage on the track. Whether the rescuers have pulled the side off - I don't know. The whole one side of the tube (carriage) was on the track. Large panel of the side of the carriage... And they were bringing people out, they were naked, they were black but alive. Cloths have all been blown off and they were just black."
Q: How quickly were the emergency services there?
"I think 10 minutes or so. Everyone was trying to pull the alarm cords but they have already been triggered. I assume the communication lines with the driver have gone. We just didn't know what has happened or what was happening. The people were really good actually. The people stationed themselves at the doors to stop stampedes. And one man went from the very back carriage. Well, the carriage where it happened. And he made his way to the driver to try and get help as soon possible because there were some badly injured people over there."
Q: Could you guess how many people were hurt in this?
"I Don't know. Some of them must have been taken off the train before we walked pass by the carriage. But I saw at least one body lying on the floor of the carriage."
Q: Were there injured?
"I don't know. They were not trying to shift them so I don't know whether they were injured or dead."
Q: What happened after that?
"Eventually we managed to get through to the front - the driver's carriage, and they got us down onto the track. But than we had to walk up the track past the damage up top Aldgate where they siphoned us off. They were brilliant than. They took us over to the area by the bus garage and they had some double-decker buses and they treated the seriously wounded in the buses. They took everyone's names."
Q: Where were you when it happened?
"Between Liverpool street and Aldgate, in the tunnel."
Q: How far did you have to walk?
"When you got out of the train you could actually see the light of the Aldgate tube station. People were in shock. Walking along the tunnel and seeing the devastation, and knowing that by the grace of God it was not you was a trauma by itself, really. So I was just saying: keep going, keep looking, we are ok."
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LOYITA WORLY: There was just a big bang, and all the lights went, and then ash started falling, and there was the smell of burning and everything in the carriage. And some people panicked, and some people -- most people kept calm. We couldn't move anywhere because it was rush hour; everybody was standing on the train. We heard people shouting for help.
REPORTER: How did you feel?
LOYITA WORLY: I'm quite a calm kind of person, so I was okay. My main fear was I didn't know what it was. I was wondering if it was a fire. And I did think that if there's a fire, then that was probably going to be it, really. But, you know, there was nothing we could do about it. We couldn't move anywhere, we were just stuck. They called for medics. And they said that some people on one of the other carriages were pretty badly hurt.
REPORTER: Did you see anyone yourself?
LOYITA WORLY: Not at that point, but we had to walk down the track past the wreckage, so at that point I did.
REPORTER: You say wreckage, what sort of wreckage?
LOYITA WORLY: At that point I think assumed it was a bomb because it looked like it had blown from the inside out.
REPORTER: How bad was that damage?
LOYITA WORLY: It looked pretty -- it was extensive. There was wreckage on the track. Whether the rescuers had pulled the side off, I don't know, because the whole side of the one side of the tube was on the track.
REPORTER: The whole side of a carriage had gone?
LOYITA WORLY: Well, no. A large panel of the side of the carriage. And they were bringing people out, who just, you know, were naked. They were black, but alive.
REPORTER: With - covered in blood?
LOYITA WORLY: Their clothes had all been blown off, and they were just black.
REPORTER: How quickly were the emergency services there?
LOYITA WORLY: I think probably, I don't know, ten minutes or so. Everyone was trying to pull the alarm cords but they had already been triggered. And that's the worst thing, because you don't know. I presume that the, you know, the communication line with the driver had gone, as well, because we couldn't -- we just didn't know what had happened or what was happening. The people were really good actually. People stationed themselves at the door to stop stampedes. And one man went from the very back carriage -- well, the carriage where it happened, and he - everybody made way for him to go up to the driver and try and get help as soon possible, because there were some very badly injured people.
REPORTER: Can you guess how many people were hurt in this?
LOYITA WORLY: I don't know, because I think some of them must have been taken off before we walked past by the carriage. But there were certainly -- I saw at least one body lying on the floor of the carriage.
REPORTER: Somebody injured or --?
LOYITA WORLY: They looked - no. They weren't trying to treat them. I don't know whether they were injured or dead. I don't know.
REPORTER: What happened after that?
LOYITA WORLY: Eventually we managed to get through to the front - well, it wasn't, it was the back - but the driver's carriage, and they got us down onto the track. But then, as I say, we had to walk up the track past the damage up to Aldgate where they took us. They siphoned us off then. They were all there then. They were brilliant then. They took us over to the area by the bus garage and they had some double-decker buses and they treated the seriously wounded in the buses. They took everybody's names.
REPORTER: So where were you when this happened?
LOYITA WORLY: It was between Liverpool Street and Aldgate, in the tunnel.
REPORTER: And how far did you have to walk? Was it a long walk to Aldgate?
LOYITA WORLY: No. I mean, that was the best thing, because when you got out of the train you could actually see the lights at Aldgate tube station. Because, I mean, a lot of people, I think, found that the walking along the tunnel - well, I mean, I was definitely in shock, you know, walking along the tunnel and seeing the devastation and knowing that but for the grace of God that, you know, could be you. It was a trauma in itself, really. So I was just saying, you know, just keep going, keep looking, and we're okay.
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We go live to London to speak with:
Train passenger Angelo Power, a London barrister, described his experience during the blast.
Angelo Power, train passenger
JUAN GONZALEZ: A train passenger, who identified himself as Angelo Power, described his experience during the blast.
ANGELO POWER: People started to scream because there was a burning smell, and everyone, to cut a long story short, thought they were going to die. People started saying prayers, praying to God, panicking, breaking the carriage windows with their bare hands, anything to get oxygen into the carriage, because the more people tried, the more distressed they became, women passing out. People started getting very agitated. There was no communication from any drivers.
Everyone was in pitch black, then the emergency lights came on. And more and more smoke started coming into the carriage. And we were there for something like twenty to thirty minutes, during which the smoke intensified, the screaming intensified, the hysteria - and that's what it was - became almost to a state of pandemonium. Then eventually somebody said that someone at the back of the carriage, because I was on the second to the back carriage, had managed to force the door open. But they wouldn't get out, because they thought they were going to be electrocuted by the live train lines. Then smoke was coming down the tunnels, so nobody would go out that exit, no one would go out the other exit, because as I understand it, there was a bomb in the middle of the carriage. So we were all trapped like sardines waiting to die, and I honestly thought my time was up.
But I survived, as did everyone else, and finally, after about thirty minutes or so, people started to leave the carriage, and to their credit, in a very controlled manner. But as I exited, I saw people's belongings scattered all over the place. People were physically injured, and the carriage windows were all smashed. There were no emergency people on hand to escort anyone off the trains, save for two officers who had arrived thirty minutes or so. But the question I ask is: Why was the train allowed to proceed from Manor House when they knew , or must have known, that these things were going on? It's just almost negligent.
REPORTER: And what did you see of the medical operation that's unfolding down there?
ANGELO POWER: There was none at first, because everyone said it was a technical failure, and it wasn't, you know? There was just mass communication failure. And given what's passed before in Madrid, I'm really at a loss to say why this was. It was clear from people who were exiting what had happened. There were emergency services there, but I think in hindsight, which is always a great factor, that things could have been done a lot better perhaps, but I can't say really any more than that, except, you know, I'm, as you can probably tell, I'm shocked myself.
REPORTER: You're - sure, I can see that your skin has been discolored by the blackness of the smoke and your lips. In some respect, sir, a lucky escape for you. What about the others that you saw?
ANGELO POWER: The others I saw, physical injuries, some had marks to the face. The carriage windows had punctured their skin. Others were physically lying on the floor, because they basically suffered smoke inhalation. Others in the main carriage, as I understand, are severely injured, if not dead. So, but at the end of the day, I honestly thought I was going to die. I'm just grateful to be alive.
REPORTER: It is looking increasingly as though this was a concerted terror attack. What do you think about the people behind this, having lived through this nightmare yourself today?
ANGELO POWER: Well, as a barrister, all I can say is, you know, I wait for the evidence before I can make any or jump to any conclusions as to who it may be. But all I can say is, you know, whoever's responsible for it, I take pity on them.
REPORTER: Pity?
ANGELO POWER: Yeah, pity, because whoever has perpetrated such a wicked act, you know, needs pity, right
